Europe , leads to the pure destruction of Europe , ends the European project , and everyone runs for cover and you ’ve got the 1930s all over again , with nationalism and fascism and other things breaking out . Of course we have an interest in this , a huge interest in this . ” When I noted to Kerry that the president ’s rhetoric does n’t match his , he said , “ President Obama sees all of this , but he does n’t gin it up into this kind of — he thinks we are on track . He has escalated his efforts .